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NOSBlaster
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Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car?   Posted Thu Jun 10, 04   1:24 PM     

??? I am thinking bout gettin one

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NOSBlaster
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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Thu Jun 10, 04   1:27 PM    [re: NOSBlaster] 

I already got a honda civic

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talljosh85
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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Thu Jun 10, 04   8:51 PM    [re: NOSBlaster] 

What year? What trim? The MKV Prelude with the 5 speed is a great car to start with, the H22 can be built up, it is a great car to drive in stock form, they are good looking, reliable, well built, comfortable and affordable. My younger sister races a pretty much stock one fairly successfully (mostly against other non or lightly modded fwd imports). Stock to stock, there are many faster cars out there, ie LT1 & LS1 F bodies, FD RX-7s, TT Supras, TT 300zx, 350z, most Mustang GTs, Evo 8s, WRXs, M3s, etc, not to mention lots of muscle cars. But you could do a lot worse. It is of course FWD, so you will want to get sticky tires to improve launching when racing the car. Just some food for thought. Josh


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LS4_454

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Sun Jun 13, 04   7:25 PM    [re: NOSBlaster] 

NO, any FWD is a poor choice, you want something that is RWD for the weight transfer.

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tunermonkey

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Wed Jun 16, 04   11:05 AM    [re: NOSBlaster] 

Street racing is for fucking morons.




If the car wasn't screaming, I wasn't racing.

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GTP_Sleeper

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Sun Jun 20, 04   12:37 AM    [re: LS4_454] 

In reply to:

NO, any FWD is a poor choice, you want something that is RWD for the weight transfer.




I will have to disagree with you there. I have a FWD and am pretty happy with the results.


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talljosh85
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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Sun Jun 20, 04   4:29 PM    [re: LS4_454] 

He's got a good point, low 13s in a nice sedan (or is it a coupe?) are damn good, thats running with M5s, and outrunning many Camaros, Mustangs, RX-7s, some Supras, C4 Vettes, etc.


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SuperKid

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Mon Jun 21, 04   5:16 PM    [re: GTP_Sleeper] 

In reply to:

... I have a FWD and am pretty happy with the results.




Many people are happy with there FWD cars, but that doesn't make them good.

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LS4_454

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Tue Jun 22, 04   6:43 PM    [re: GTP_Sleeper] 

You'll be happy until you get your ass handed to you by my VW.

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talljosh85
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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Wed Jun 23, 04   7:51 PM    [re: LS4_454] 

With enough hp a VW could hand a lot of people their asses. I remember a turbo one at Ontario that was just walking away from everybody, it was bad ass. Maybe the 1776 in the manix could use a little boost......


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SweetNeon

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Wed Jun 23, 04   9:04 PM    [re: LS4_454] 

by a vw haha how cute

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SweetNeon

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Wed Jun 23, 04   9:05 PM    [re: LS4_454] 

does that vintage flower power car feal like it will fall apart over 60mph?

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GTP_Sleeper

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Wed Jun 23, 04   10:36 PM    [re: SweetNeon] 

Why would a VW pass me?

Oh sorry it was your feeble attempt to disregard the fact that a FWD car can smoke most V8s if modded correctly. Are you gay, young, or just plain stupid?


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andypandy
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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Thu Jun 24, 04   12:49 AM    [re: NOSBlaster] 

What year is it

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D15powerd
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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Sat Jun 26, 04   1:44 PM    [re: LS4_454] 

VW? hahahahha! The ONLY VW i have any respect for is the new R32. The fucking wheel fell off my friends VW, lug nuts and all, fuck vw's.
The prelude is a great platform. It's a little heavy but the 200hp h22 makes it feel light. My buddy is rocking a 93 lude with the JDM h22 fully built and it owns on the street, i would say he's pushing around the 250hp range. Sorry guys, i love my civic but RWD's will always be superior when it comes to traction....it's sad but true. Traction is the number one problem with pro fwd teams, it's not making the power, it's getting it to the ground.

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talljosh85
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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Sat Jun 26, 04   1:48 PM    [re: SweetNeon] 

I can't speak for anyone else, but the front end of the manx buggy gets awful light right about 70mph, but, then again, I can pretty much pick it up, expecially if there is not gas in the tank.


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LS4_454

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Mon Jun 28, 04   11:08 PM    [re: D15powerd] 

Oooh, a wheel fell off, good reason to hate VW's. maybe it was your DA friend that didn't tighten it down or thief that tried to steal it? That goes right along with all rotories catching on fire.
I'll keep you posted on the VW so you can have your ass handed to you.

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LS4_454

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Mon Jun 28, 04   11:10 PM    [re: GTP_Sleeper] 

"Why would a VW pass me?"

Because your car is so slow.

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LS4_454

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Mon Jun 28, 04   11:12 PM    [re: talljosh85] 

Manx? Real or copy? I had a Manx Type (Cobra by Fiberjet) myself with just a stocker, enjoyed offroading in it up in Big Bear.

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D15powerd
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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Tue Jun 29, 04   12:36 AM    [re: LS4_454] 

welds broke and the whole hub assembly came off. And anyone who would attempt to steal the stock steelies off of a VW is a dumbass as well. I'm not saying ALL vw's are bad (R32 240hp!), but the quality is inconsistent. I just don't trust anything that came with 32 stock hp to hold up during a race, my own personal bias. It's hard to imagine driving my CX civic when it had the stock 70hp, but then cut that in half....that's slow. And rotaries were never meant to handle crazy hp numbers, it's an engineering defect (apex seals), so a rotary catching fire isn't that hard to believe. The seals aren't stationary like piston rings, they need to flex; and things that flex have limits. Sorry to rain on your parade there....

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Rx_otary_Se7en

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Tue Jun 29, 04   12:56 AM    [re: D15powerd] 

You must be crazy, VW's will kick the shit out of most cars on the street today, and even though i dont liek them as much as many other people do, I still respect them. Just because your friend had a fucking beat ass one doesnt mean they all fall apart, if you take care of it then it wont break. LS isnt talking about a new beetle or a jetta or somethin, hes talkin bout the old ones. Any interest in a Ghia LS4?


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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Tue Jun 29, 04   8:38 AM    [re: GTP_Sleeper] 

Have you looked in the video area? Tell me that VW is slow after you check it out. Im not saying your car is slow but it seems like every day your times get lower and lower. That seems to be unbelivable to me. That VW would probably hand both of us our asses on a silver platter. Don't under estimate the VW's


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VW_Nut

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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Tue Jun 29, 04   1:32 PM    [re: BlownGTP] 

Well put Blown, mine isn't there yet, but I'm stocking up on some parts right now.


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talljosh85
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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Wed Jun 30, 04   12:25 AM    [re: LS4_454] 

its a copy, but a good one, the body flows really nice. So far we have: rebuilt brakes, new rebuild motor, short shifter, chrome roll bar, new seats, some gauges, wiring, vintage british side mirrors, American mags (off a '64 vette with tires from a 365gtb/4 Daytona), and a little electrical work. Try one of these links to see the car, its not a great pic but its what has been put on the site so far. http://home1.gte.net/res0m4lr/cars_files/image007.jpg or: http://home1.gte.net/res0m4lr/cars.htm . I'm not sure who built this one, so we just call it the manx or manix or dune buggy. Its a wonderful car, so much fun to drive (and the ladies love it). When I lived in Lake Arrowhead we took it on the trails a few times, it did great, probably better then a lot of the new so called SUVs.


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Re: Is a Honda Prelude a good street racing car? new   Posted Wed Jun 30, 04   12:33 AM    [re: D15powerd] 

Dissing the rotaries, thats just low. Stock to stock, the 13brew makes more hp and torque then any of the honda 4 bangers (unless there is some turbo diesel out there which I've never heard of). And FD RX-7s are easier to make quick, rwd, set up for boosting, light weight, you know about em. Nothing against hondas, but the apex seal wasn't a defect, its part of the design of the motor. Its like me saying fwd is a design flaw in the civic, it isn't of course, as an economy car it is a great design, but not superior to rwd for a sports car. Rotaries catch fire because they are poorly maintained and need better cooling. They run very hot as is (especially when turbocharged) , so when making more power, cooling becomes an important issue to adress. Normally aspirated 13b's and 12a's run for a long time, there generally isn't anything to blow out the apex seal. Atkins rotary just came out with some so called "unbreakable" apex seals that are pretty fucking cool and very strong. Sorry for the rant, but I gotta show love for my 13brew.


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