fast_honda1233
(Newbie)
Sat Jul 22, 06   4:22 PM
hey im new and need help

I'm 14 and just recently got into the car scene, i'm really interested in getting into cars. The problem is i don't know much about them, and i heard you guys can help out...A lot. I own a '96 Honda Accord no body or perrformance upgrades.Also, is there any possible was to turn an automatic into a manual? Plus, I was also wondering if you guys think i should get my car looking good first then do the performance stuff later or the other way around?

fast_honda1233
(Newbie)
Sat Jul 22, 06   4:26 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I also know very little about cars, I only know the basics.

fast_honda1233
(Newbie)
Sat Jul 22, 06   5:44 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

how do you make your car really loud??

Import_Fan
(New Member)
Sat Jul 22, 06   7:29 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Put A Exhaust Pipe on it, I reccomend Flowmaster. What kind of car is it?

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sat Jul 22, 06   9:47 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

You can go to hell and die. You are the reason that people make fun of Honda's to begin with. Touch your Accord again, and I'll kill you. Melt the key into the shape of a bullet, and shoot yourself in the head.

fast_honda1233
(Newbie)
Sat Jul 22, 06   11:52 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

you go fuck yourself dude maybe i dont have the money as a 14 year old to buy a new car trust me if i did i would. i inherited the car it isnt my fault so you go shoot yourself in the fucking head asshole. and your calling the domestic guys assholes becasue they flame our forum. your a faggot and you probably fuck your own mother becuase you cant get any pussy yourself

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sun Jul 23, 06   12:13 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

You are trying to fix up an Accord. I dont even have to say anything else. LEAVE THE CAR ALONE AND JUST DRIVE IT.

fast_honda1233
(New Member)
Sun Jul 23, 06   2:22 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

dude, im 14 u didnt have to rag on me that bad... i just needed help learning about cars

fast_honda1233
(New Member)
Sun Jul 23, 06   2:27 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

and if you think something that im doing is wrong then tell me how to make it right not tell me to shoot myself in the head

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sun Jul 23, 06   10:05 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

I still think you should take a cap to the head.

Iwantasupra
(Spectator)
Sun Jul 23, 06   12:12 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

In every single car scenario, ALWAYS performance before looks. And after your "How do I get my car to be loud" post, I know your car will be rice. So, from now on, I ban you from putting visual upgrades on your car. Might as well save some money on your car and buy a bowl of rice.

rollinonhubs
(Competitor)
Sun Jul 23, 06   1:44 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

one major thing ure doing wrong is tryin to make your accord fast, do what i did drive it around for a while save ure money and buy something nice, i drove a v6mustang auto for my first car, i had so many stupid plans for it but sittin here thinking about it what a waste of money it would have been to make that hting half way fast. always use your first car for transportation use and a learning tool on how do drive a car properly. then once uve saved ure money and actually learned how to drive go out and find something nice. TRUST ME about this i was the same way

fast_honda1233
(New Member)
Sun Jul 23, 06   4:01 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

thanks

fast_honda1233
(New Member)
Sun Jul 23, 06   8:52 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

thank you for telling me what im doing wrong i really dont know what cars are good but i can now see the accord is not in that catagory, once i get the money im getting a new car

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sun Jul 23, 06   9:38 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Hopefully its a hearse to transport your dead body to the dump.

rollinonhubs
(Competitor)
Mon Jul 24, 06   5:29 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

ha ha good one lol

Str33tRacer
(Competitor)
Mon Jul 24, 06   6:07 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

oh god here we go again! lol

fast_honda1233
(New Member)
Mon Jul 24, 06   7:31 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

ya im just ignoring his posts untill he has something valuable to say

Str33tRacer
(Competitor)
Mon Jul 24, 06   7:32 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

LOL, good idea but i hope you know that he'll probably keep pissing you off! So get used to it! LOL

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Jul 24, 06   10:13 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

He pissed me off first.

Str33tRacer
(Competitor)
Mon Jul 24, 06   12:11 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I'm not gunna get in any more fights! LOL ( i think i'll stay out of this one lol )

Iwantasupra
(Spectator)
Wed Jul 26, 06   8:27 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Stop saying LOL in every post, you're just pissing me off more and more.

buddhakwake
(Black Sunshine)
Sat Jul 29, 06   9:16 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

Now why would you want him to destroy the key? He should just go get a real bullet and save the key for whoever deserves the car.

buddhakwake
(Black Sunshine)
Sat Jul 29, 06   9:18 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

That's his specialty.

buddhakwake
(Black Sunshine)
Sat Jul 29, 06   9:19 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

Listen to rollin, save the money to get a different car. And NEVER fix up the exterior until the car is a great performer first.

italian_ninja
(Flagger)
Sat Aug 5, 06   9:44 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

rotary might be a little mean sometimes but he and buddwake are pretty much the two most knowledable guys on these forums. They'll give you more "valuable" information than any one else.

rotary is right about the accord, you would have to put way too much money into a car like that and its just not worth the results. If you insist on having a honda you should get an older Civic and swap in a Vtec.

If I were you I would get a Nissan or something like a 96 200SX or sumthin. I dunno.



Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sat Aug 5, 06   9:52 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

If I had a 200sx I would do an Sr20 swap, hands down.

Iwantasupra
(Flagger)
Sun Aug 6, 06   11:41 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

You're right, about Rx and Buddha, except it's more Rx is moreso "Putting people in their place" Rather than "mean"

italian_ninja
(Flagger)
Mon Aug 7, 06   2:13 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

what is the difference between the SR20 and the SR25? One of my buddies seems to think that the 25 is the better engine when i have been hearing that the 20 is more aggressive

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Aug 7, 06   3:12 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

There are many different versions of the Sr20. There is an N/A application found in 2.0 Sentras. Its a piece of junk. There is a turbo version found in Japan (still in the sentra) that is lower compression and has a less agressive cam profile. The Sr20 found in JDM silvias has higher compression. I have never heard of an Sr25. He must mean the RB25 out of the base Skyline.

italian_ninja
(Flagger)
Tue Aug 8, 06   10:51 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I dunno I dont know much about nissans to tell you the truth. I've been thinking of buy one of those Silvias. Aren't they 200SX here?

Silo55
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 9, 06   11:08 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

There are 200sx here, yes, FWD nonetheless though.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Aug 9, 06   1:11 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

They are 240SX's here. If you were to put a 200SX front end on it, it would be a Sileighty.

Racerchic06
(Spectator)
Sat Aug 12, 06   11:39 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

i agree with them dont do anything to your car. go to the juckyard like i did. Im 13 almost 14 so i can relate. go to the junkyard and find a piece of shit but not to bad. make sure its something you like. then work on the body but do it original no upgrades. then collect pieces for your motor even the small things like pulleys and belts. but get the big things first like the block, intake, starter, and your fuel injection. most parts of the same brand are interchangeable, so it shouldnt be that hard. just keep working on it and save your money. take on little odd jobs here and their and youll get it done.
note* get your belts new, oh and gaskets too if the new cars use them i dont know shit about new cars as you can tell.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sun Aug 13, 06   12:58 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I have a feeling that it isnt just new cars.

Racerchic06
(Spectator)
Sun Aug 13, 06   7:55 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Really Then What is it. i think its you being an asshole.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sun Aug 13, 06   8:47 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I think its you being another stupid ass kid who runs their mouth when they dont know shit. Yeah, it is.

italian_ninja
(Flagger)
Mon Aug 14, 06   1:38 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

haha youve always got good comebacks. But you're right rotary I think it may be a kid who wants to be cool and sound like they know what they're talking about.

Racerchic06
(Spectator)
Mon Aug 14, 06   7:20 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

You People Need to shut the fuck up and just becuz im a kid doesnt mean i dont know as much as you do. at least i have class and im not some fagget who has their head up their fucking ass. Plus i didnt do shit to you. your just picking stupid fights. At Least I admit it. You Prolly Dont know shit when it comes down to it. If You can which you prolly cant name all the motors in the windsor and FE series and tell me what year Mustangs came out . You prolly have to search the internet. Your a male whore.

Iwantasupra
(Flagger)
Mon Aug 14, 06   7:30 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Just to test my knowledge, isn't it 65 that the first mustang was made?

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Aug 14, 06   11:46 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Just to remind you, you're in the Import forum right now.

italian_ninja
(Flagger)
Mon Aug 14, 06   11:58 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

and who's to say you didnt get all of your info on the web?

69charger
(Competitor)
Tue Aug 15, 06   5:58 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

TY just because some of us are kids we do know are shit i been workin on cars wit my dad since i was 8 and believe me he taught me alot of shit we just finished the r/t and thats why i was lookin for a new project car :'( we had toi sell the r/t anyway back to the subject i'm 13 racinchic u said u were 14 and str33tracers also 13

Iwantasupra
(Flagger)
Tue Aug 15, 06   7:20 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

Did you mean to reply that to me? Just wondering...

Silo55
(Competitor)
Tue Aug 15, 06   12:52 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Uhh dude I thought you were like 20 something? and what about that Supra you had as your daily driver?

69charger
(Competitor)
Tue Aug 15, 06   2:31 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

first silo no i said 12 and supra no i was thankin racerchic

Racerchic06
(Spectator)
Tue Aug 15, 06   8:47 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

i didnt get it off the net because i been working with my dad since i was like 9 and i know stuff its not my fault your a stuck up asshole. and by the way he
never answered my question. so maybe itallian asshole ninja can answer them.

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Tue Aug 15, 06   9:16 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Make sure your daddy doesn't see you using that language little girl.

Silo55
(Competitor)
Tue Aug 15, 06   11:50 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

What the hell are you talking about? How am I a stuck up asshole?

italian_ninja
(Flagger)
Wed Aug 16, 06   12:01 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

First of all I never claimed to know anything about domestic engines. Which is why I post in the import forum. Have you learned logic yet in junior high?
Secondly you spelt ITALIAN wrong and ass hole is two words. Is that the best you could come up with anyhow?

69charger
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 16, 06   4:44 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

fuck off go make some more spaghetti i got some chicken to fry

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Aug 16, 06   10:27 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

dont forget to eat your watermellon and smoke that crack

italian_ninja
(Flagger)
Wed Aug 16, 06   1:20 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

So anyway, You really need to get some less childish comebacks because honestly I think you're just making yourself look bad. If you know all the Windsor engines and all that shit then why are you posting in the import forum?
And I happen to like spaghetti and I make it a lot, was that supposed to be an insult? I'm surprised you even spelt spaghetti right judging from some of your other posts.

69charger
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 16, 06   2:25 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

lol i waz just actin retarded and sweet neon i have one thing to say, .....WTF

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Aug 16, 06   3:29 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

fuck you go play with your dolls bitch

69charger
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 16, 06   3:31 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

dude i'm tired of arguing just leave me alone

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Aug 16, 06   3:56 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

well get the fuck out of here and go play your video games ya fuck, this isnt a forum for little kiddies who arnt old enough to drive a car let alone afford a car and dont even live any where close to the coachella valley

69charger
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 16, 06   4:59 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

u dont live in coachella and if u do ur the only one

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Aug 16, 06   5:14 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

blow me cock sucker i live in the coachella valley and im not the only one

69charger
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 16, 06   5:17 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

who else lives in coachella other than DOT that actually posts

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Aug 16, 06   5:22 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

budfuckawak or what ever, that fat dude who drives a womans car

69charger
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 16, 06   5:24 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

lmao wats he drive

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Aug 16, 06   5:27 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

a car you could never afford little girl

RACINLIFE
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 16, 06   6:41 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

scion

RACINLIFE
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 16, 06   6:42 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

and the admin of the site lives in coachella too i think

Racerchic06
(Spectator)
Wed Aug 16, 06   6:50 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

my father doesnt care and you should stop acting like a bitch and take your head out of your ass.

RACINLIFE
(Competitor)
Wed Aug 16, 06   6:52 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

all right a girl who talks trash and hates all the assholes on this forum!( actually everyone who isnt an asshole hates them...)

Racerchic06
(Spectator)
Wed Aug 16, 06   6:53 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

whats that supposed to mean? LOL

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Thu Aug 17, 06   12:40 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

She doesnt hate the assholes on this forum, because I havent seen her publicly bash you yet.

69charger
(Competitor)
Thu Aug 17, 06   5:08 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

fuck off ass wipe

italian_ninja
(Racer)
Thu Aug 17, 06   1:10 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

is it just me or is there a lot of negative energy going around this forum lately?

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Thu Aug 17, 06   1:30 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

fuck off ass hole

69charger
(Competitor)
Thu Aug 17, 06   2:00 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

i would say yes

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Thu Aug 17, 06   11:49 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Because kids always think they can win.

69charger
(Competitor)
Fri Aug 18, 06   5:18 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

no one needs a critic

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Fri Aug 18, 06   1:12 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

and no one wants your opinion

69charger
(Competitor)
Fri Aug 18, 06   2:09 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

true but its out there anyway

Racerchic06
(Spectator)
Mon Aug 21, 06   2:57 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

No They Dont. I Dont Know Why You Said They Becuz You Act like a fucking baby who has dirty pants, always picking fights and complaining about shit.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Aug 21, 06   4:29 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Dont you have frogs to dissect?

Racerchic06
(Spectator)
Mon Aug 21, 06   4:50 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Frogs?? That Was Fucking Random

Riceracer
(Flagger)
Wed Oct 25, 06   7:57 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

fuck off sweetneon

john_n_2da_guyen
(New Member)
Fri Dec 1, 06   7:35 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

first, choose if ur goin for looks or speed... i recommend speed beacause people will be gunnin for you on the highway if you look "rice"
for speed:
drop a H22 in it and work from there... you can choose turbo or all motor... i recommend all motor if you are on a budget.. get a cold air intake with a cat back exahaust... also, good headers will compliment it well... get your car tuned and u should having fun with it.. remember, YOU ARE ON A BUDGET!!


NOS
(Competitor)
Sun Dec 3, 06   10:41 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

^^hey buddy you dont kno shit forced induction is way more power and cheaper than N/A

john_n_2da_guyen
(New Member)
Sun Dec 3, 06   7:14 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

why would he/she spend another 4+ grand for turbo/supercharger after he/she bought a car? when i said all motor, i meant stock internals.. why you gotta get so offensive?.. if i wanted him to go into internals, dont you think i woulda mentioned it? sorry if i didnt mentioned it at first, but please, be alot nicer next time^^

NOS
(Competitor)
Thu Dec 7, 06   7:37 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

u can get a junkyard 100hp twin turbo setup (twin T3s) for like only $800

DBLDREW
(Competitor)
Thu Dec 7, 06   9:18 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

You could pick up t-3 junkyard turbos for way less then $400 each! But unless the guy can weld and fabricate the hot and cold side he is stuck buying a kit, or paying somebody else to do the fabrication (which would probably cost more then a kit anyway)



Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Fri Dec 8, 06   2:46 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

You replied to me because?? You could supercharge an H22 with with everything else bone stock and make more power than with an I/H/E setup. (any good header will cost you $800+, and a good exhaust will cost the same amount unless you're buying used.)

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Fri Dec 8, 06   8:59 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

what does a $800 header look like? do they throw in a motor with the purchase of a header?

DBLDREW
(Competitor)
Fri Dec 8, 06   2:05 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

An $800 dollar header gets you the gold plated upgrade, which is much fancier then a good ceramic coating.

In all seriousness is that what it costs for a header for an import? Is that just for 1?


SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Fri Dec 8, 06   7:05 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I paid 160 for a new turbo header.

john_n_2da_guyen
(Spectator)
Fri Dec 8, 06   10:56 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

first factor: ok.. why would u supercharge a h22 anyway? its walls are too thin and its already high compression.. spinnin with a supercharger with only a 5lbs pulley can have a chance to blow the motor already.. and about the 800 headers, ive never seen any cost over 500 unless they were "j-spec"...
next factor: supercharger kits can go easliy for $4000+ but those are for the "track fanatics".. unless u wanna buy a $2000 kit that gets barely any power gains until u run high octane (race gas)..
last factor: h22 swap plus bolt ons are all u need if u are a daily driver.. why make tremendous power if u arent goin pro?.. thats why i chose simple n/a rather than forced induction for this person

gamer
(Racer)
Sat Dec 9, 06   8:33 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

sweet

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Sat Dec 9, 06   9:11 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

I would love to have a 400hp 4cyl daily driver.

gamer
(Racer)
Sat Dec 9, 06   9:14 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

yeah me to

john_n_2da_guyen
(Spectator)
Sat Dec 9, 06   4:01 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

yep.. on my way there lol

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Sat Dec 9, 06   4:44 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

and how are you going to do that?

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sun Dec 10, 06   3:03 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

A good header, as in not DC sports or Greddy bullshit. Something good like T1R, RMR, SMSP etc.. Fujitsubo exhausts and the like are gonna run you at least $700 as well. Cylinder walls too thin in the H22 to run a supercharger? What makes you say that? Do you even know what you're talking about? you can run a t3/t4 at 8psi with stock internals just fine. A supercharger kit is gonna run you $2500 at 7psi, and it will dramatically change the powerband in the lower rpm range. "Thin cylinder walls" - what a joke.

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Sun Dec 10, 06   5:01 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Its good we have 2 comedians here now. Do you have a $700 header on your 1991 MR2 slow?

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sun Dec 10, 06   8:23 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I dont have an MR2, and if I did I wouldnt be using n/a headers meticulously designed for all motor usage you goon.

john_n_2da_guyen
(Spectator)
Sun Dec 10, 06   8:30 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

no, i wasnt joking.. and yes, i know what i am talking about.. ive done my fair share of research when debating on doing a gsr, type r, or h22 swap.. it IS true that h22 have thin walls when goin forced induction.. why dont u go check it out urself.. and get this through: not everyone has money to go turbo or supercharge!!!.. i mentioned N/A because the subject of this forum is "hey im new and need help".. and my team have already tested the jackson supercharger on my friends h22 pumpin at 6psi.. and u know wat? the gains were nowhere near wat we see on the ads (300hp/240tq).. we called and asked customer service and they said "u have to tune it and run race gas and boost higher".. go figure, a rip off!! believe me, its true, h22 is too thin unless u rebuild the block and sleeve it.. and besides, im not saying you are wrong, its just most people who are new in the car scene usually go for i/h/e before anyting else..

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sun Dec 10, 06   10:12 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

If you arent tuning an FI setup, then you shouldnt be running an FI setup. The cylinder walls are not too thin. the only reason people resleeev is so that they can use forged pistons. If you dont resleeve, the pistons will score the cylinder walls: thats it. The JRSC with Toda spec B's and Type S pistons will make at least 230-250 whp with a good tune, and this being swapped into something besides a lude is a huge plus as well. I want to see proof that the cylinder walls are too thin.

DBLDREW
(Competitor)
Mon Dec 11, 06   10:29 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

Having to re-sleeve your block just to go with forged pistons, because the pistons will score your block doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. The pistons aren’t riding on the cylinder wall the rings are. Now forged pistons do expand more under extreme heat over a hypereutectic piston. But regardless if the forged pistons are “slapping” the cylinder wall due to the extra space required for the heat expansion of the piston, what is putting a new cylinder sleeve going to do?

john_n_2da_guyen
(Spectator)
Mon Dec 11, 06   12:52 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

you will have to read alot on these forums:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/printthread.php?t=127184&page=4&pp=15

(quote from jezek, paragraph 4):
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=55206

better yet, look up "h22 cylinder walls" on yahoo or google and you'll get alot of searches saying h22 cylinder walls crack easy under forced induction.. but imma give this debate up because its up to the "hey im new and need help" guy.. although he seemed to have left the forum!!







SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Dec 11, 06   1:00 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

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Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Dec 4, 06 6:52 PM
Re: first car [re: john_n_2da_guyen] Reply




Oh really? So my turbo MR2 in stock form purchased for $6k is slower than a CRX that will need a full swap from D to B series, plus the expense for the head, block, transmission, and labor if you need it? I think not. The EG is lighter anyway.

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You want to look at your post and think about it for a sec dumbass?

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Dec 11, 06   1:04 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

You wont find any good info on those websites. I would like to see some pictures of a cracked honda cyl wall, got any?

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Dec 11, 06   4:27 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Allow me to elaborate further. You would have to swap out axles and such on top of getting mounts, shift linkage, computer etc.. The extra money for the head and block is if you decide to do an LSVTEC setup like he mentioned.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Dec 11, 06   4:46 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

The stock pistons have some kind of coating on them so when switching over to forged pistons, you have to resleeve it with something stronger. Extensive information on this subject is available in the prelude forum over at Honda-Tech.com. Now, to rebutt the other guy, that paragraph only helped my cause. It says the cylinder walls are THINNER THAN A B SERIES, NOT THAT THE H SERIES WALLS ARE THIN, and he mentions this for building a RACE MOTOR that would be BORED out. He also says that the bang for the buck factor is greater with the H series when he says that amount of work it would take and cost of doing an H swap is more reliable and cheaper than doing a B swap. Reading is fundamental, hit the bricks kid.

john_n_2da_guyen
(Spectator)
Mon Dec 11, 06   4:57 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

lol.. good call good call.. the case has rest.. i forgot that they were comparing B vs H motors ^^
about resleeving, i thought blocks were sleeved for fortification of the block when runnin very high compression or forced induction.. since the stock sleeves cant handle all the pressure being combusted inside the chambers.. but i also know a guy runnin stock sleeves (on a b16 motor) that has about 460hp (he ran 11.04 at 146.xxmph)..
but yea, the film on the forged pistons are made to eliminate cracking and protect against oil blowby..

john_n_2da_guyen
(Spectator)
Mon Dec 11, 06   4:59 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

search yahoo or google?? how do u upload pics on this forum? use html?

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Dec 11, 06   5:29 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

photobucket.com

DBLDREW
(Competitor)
Tue Dec 12, 06   6:48 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Yes I know about the anti-friction coating they put on the skirt of the piston. But why wouldn’t they design a forged piston that also has the coating? What genius came up with the idea that rather then coating the forged piston that you would instead re-sleeve your block? Only in the import world would such half assed performance parts be accepted.

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Tue Dec 12, 06   7:21 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I agree.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Tue Dec 12, 06   7:27 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

They do have pistons with the coat, but its the stock sleeves thats the actual problem. Theyre "FRM" (Fibre reinforced material) that becomes scored with anything besides the OEM iron piston. The material melts like glue after so many miles and eevntually seizes everything. From what I have learned so far, only Wiseco makes a piston that is FRM compliant.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Tue Dec 12, 06   7:28 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Stupid whore, you agree on things that you know nothing about.

NOS
(Competitor)
Wed Dec 13, 06   5:27 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

to sweet neon take a look at this

DBLDREW
(Competitor)
Wed Dec 13, 06   8:08 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

Ok I did some research on this whole re-sleeveing process. What I have read is that Honda uses an aluminum sleeve for the h22 block and there is a FRM lining over the aluminum sleeve. The problem comes with the FRM lining is to thin, (which is what John probably was referring to) anyway, when you change pistons you need to either bore your cylinder, or at least hone it. If you bore it, it will completely remove the FRM lining and then you are left with just a soft aluminum sleeve (not good). If you just hone it, it will still take some of the FRM material off and severely weaken it (again not good). So if you don’t hone your cylinder and just swap the pistons, you won’t have any problems with your cylinder walls, but with out the cross hatch pattern from the bore the new rings will not break in correctly, and you will have bad blow by and loss of compression (not good).

Now supposedly there is a new piston and ring set that they can do a shallower hone then what is typically done and you can skip the re-sleeve process, but there isn’t too much info on the reliability of this route. But even if that is true I question how strong an aluminum sleeve would be.


gamer
(Racer)
Wed Dec 13, 06   1:25 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

that pic didnt come in for me

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Dec 13, 06   2:23 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

What is your point? That is a cyl head not a picture of a cracked cyl wall.

gamer
(Racer)
Wed Dec 13, 06   2:35 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

oh never mind

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Thu Dec 14, 06   5:20 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Look you dont know what i know and what i dont but one of the things i do know is that you are a motherfucker who sucks his moms dik and his dads pussy. thats why your such a pansy ass.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Thu Dec 14, 06   6:40 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I dont know what you know because I know everything that you dont. You agreed on a blanket statement that was made without knowing all of the facts on the subject

NOS
(Competitor)
Fri Dec 15, 06   4:56 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

bitch just got owned

gamer
(Competitor)
Fri Dec 15, 06   1:05 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

ha thats funny i thought you didnt know what owned means

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Sat Dec 16, 06   3:01 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

You Dont know everything i dont. im way smarter then you will ever be. so dont act like your better then everybody else cuz your not. you need to stop acting like a big shot because your really actin a fool. so just shut your big fuckin mouth and then people might actually talk about cars up in here but you always gotta disturb the flow with some smartass comment. so for future advice, SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!
This goes for Nos too.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sat Dec 16, 06   10:40 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Im smarter than your entire extended hick family, mainly because I actually graduated from highschool and made it into college. Me > Your dad. Bitch.

NOS
(Competitor)
Sun Dec 17, 06   8:01 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

me> ur entire family

stupid bitchs these days...

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Tue Dec 19, 06   7:25 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Your talking bout your self whenever you say "stupid bitches these days" right? ya. And My dad graduated from Harvard with a degree in engineering, and i dont even think you know what engineering is so i dont know why i bother, and i dont have a hick family, i think your just covering for yourself. you know u like to imbreed with your sisters and your momma..so i think that my family is better than your whole trailer park community. or do you live with the rats in the trash can behind walmart?

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Dec 20, 06   4:49 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

A degree in "engineering" huh? Enginering what? I know your full of shit, so just humor me with whatever answer you can come up with.

DBLDREW
(Competitor)
Wed Dec 20, 06   7:48 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

A Bachelor of Engineering is a very common degree. I’m not sure what you are trying to call her out on. That a BE doesn’t exist?

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Dec 20, 06   10:37 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Electronic, mechanical etc..?

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Thu Dec 21, 06   2:12 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Engineering strap ons?

gamer
(Competitor)
Thu Dec 21, 06   2:45 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

ok i lost what we where cusing at oh i now shut up you dont talk to a girl like that for me i know manners ok

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Sun Dec 24, 06   9:28 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

at least someone in this place does.

DBLDREW
(Competitor)
Tue Dec 26, 06   10:32 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

Well if he did engineer strap ons, he is probably a wealthy man. There is a lot of $$ in the sex industry, just ask Gamers Mom…

newyorkdrags
(Newbie)
Tue Dec 26, 06   3:41 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

that mustang you sure thats the mph because thats a little high for 11.86s

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Wed Dec 27, 06   12:53 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

what subject are you on? there hasnt been any car talk here ever. most likely becuz these pussys know shit about cars.

DBLDREW
(Competitor)
Wed Dec 27, 06   8:24 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

He is talking about my mustang in my sig.

Yes the MPH is a little high, but the car realistically is a low 11 second car, I never got the launch down correct to get a better time. The problem is that at my local track if your car is 11.99 or faster, you need a roll cage, racing harness, drive shaft loop, and scatter shield. My car is a street car so I’m missing a few of those items. You can get through tech if you say your car is only running in the 12 second range. But once you dip into the 11s they kick you off the track.

So I went a few times to try to get an idea of how fast the car was, but never got it down correct before I would get an 11 second and get kicked off the track. The first time I went with my latest combo I was not running full slicks, I had bfg drag radials. I sprayed it out of the hole and got a horrible launch and as I was going down the track, I figured with such a bad launch I would be in the 12s, I was wrong that was when I registered the 11.86 @118. So one try and I get kicked off the track.

I went back with full slicks later on in the year and my plain was to just work on my launch but shut down early, for most of the day to keep it in the 12s. I figured when I was getting a consistently good launch and was ready to call it a day I would make 1 more pass that I wouldn’t shut down early and see what the car could actually do, that way when I get kicked off the track, I was leaving anyway so no big deal. But unfortunately, again things didn’t work out that well for me. I got 2 passes that day. The first I launched pretty good, but missed a gear and shut down a little early and ran somewhere in the 13s. So the next pass I launch run most of the way and shut down early and got an 11.98 and once again got kicked off the track.

So the fastest the car officially ran was the 11.86 @ 118. I know the car is probably a low 11 second car, but that would be lame putting what I think the car could run and not what it actually ran.


newyorkdrags
(Newbie)
Wed Dec 27, 06   11:25 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

check my cars out on myspace search 92ridingon22my caprice gos 10.00s and my dads monte carlo gos 7.00s

gamer
(Competitor)
Wed Dec 27, 06   1:35 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

whatever man

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Dec 27, 06   1:43 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

lame

gamer
(Competitor)
Wed Dec 27, 06   1:48 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

yeah whatever

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:05 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I wasnt talking to you little boy, but yea your lame also.

newyorkdrags
(New Member)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:32 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

you and sweet nein are fucking bunch of faggot that need to get a life and stop playing little kid fucking games your moms stopped playing hide the rod in her pussy when she was 10 so why dont you and neon stop playing gamer pokes neon in the ass

gamer
(Competitor)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:35 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

what the fuck do you think you can join a site and think your king ok fine once you grow a dick then you can be king and by the way SWEETNEON im not a litle boy

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:36 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Shouldnt you be busy finding pictures of other peoples cars on the internet so you can say your daddy owns them? Being 16 and full of shit isnt a good start in to life.

newyorkdrags
(New Member)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:38 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

listen little pussy boy you cant even get a date or have sex yet so why dont you go in the corner of youre room and play with youre2 inch rod and shut the fuck up and if youre a real g post youre adress so ican come and beat youre little as and fuck your mom pussy

gamer
(Competitor)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:39 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

hey sweet neon dont you hate this ass hole

newyorkdrags
(New Member)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:44 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

post youre adress bitches your little fucking kids dumb bitches

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:45 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Both of you need to find a different forum, Im sure you 2 could search for a queer forum on yahoo that would suit you best.

gamer
(Competitor)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:46 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

ok fine Broklyn AVE. 3748

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Dec 27, 06   2:46 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

good one dumbshit

newyorkdrags
(Spectator)
Wed Dec 27, 06   4:39 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

fuck your mother no one likes you here so go fuck your three year old sister

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Dec 27, 06   10:06 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

I think Id like to see a Caprice run anything lower than a 12.

gamer
(Competitor)
Thu Dec 28, 06   9:50 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

ok thats funny no one showed up at my house wow i think i know why thats becuse your nothing but a litle corny kid that fucks himself with his moms dilldo

newyorkdrags
(Spectator)
Thu Dec 28, 06   12:42 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

look in ndra.com search for blue and silver caprice runs 10.00s all day and gamer i love youre mom she gives such great head omg she does just ask nos and neon she doesnt stop there she likes my dogs to

gamer
(Competitor)
Thu Dec 28, 06   12:54 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

they should put you in a fucking box and send you to china

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Thu Dec 28, 06   6:36 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

please you aint a real g. your a pussy just like yo momma. hes right go to the corner of you room and play with your 1/2 inch rod.

newyorkdrags
(Spectator)
Fri Dec 29, 06   8:31 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

that is funny that you gave me a fake address dont you know you can look up on google maps stupid fucking ididot what youre daddy was molesting you and you forgot youre address

gamer
(Competitor)
Fri Dec 29, 06   8:48 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

bich shut up i did give you the right adress retard it is
Broklyn AVE. 3748

newyorkdrags
(Spectator)
Fri Dec 29, 06   4:43 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

shut the fuck up its not real you live in a carboard box on fifth and central dumb bitch

gamer
(Competitor)
Tue Jan 2, 07   9:12 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

fuck off how would i get a dumb ass computer in a box

newyorkdrags
(Spectator)
Tue Jan 2, 07   12:05 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

fuck if i know

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Tue Jan 2, 07   1:49 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

(computers come in boxes when you buy them)

gamer
(Competitor)
Tue Jan 2, 07   2:42 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

that is not funny i mean.... idont know what i mean so shut the fuck up

newyorkdrags
(Spectator)
Tue Jan 2, 07   2:53 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

youre such a fucking idiot gameer go wack youre balls bitch

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Tue Jan 2, 07   11:28 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Why dont you shut the fuck up and stop saying stupid ass bullshit.

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Tue Jan 9, 07   8:44 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

How stupid. you typed your self stuttering.

gamer
(Competitor)
Wed Jan 10, 07   3:48 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

what how was that stuttering bich

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Wed Jan 10, 07   5:07 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Wow, if you cant spell curse words, you shouldnt be able to use them. Its spelled "biTch", emphasis on the T.

gamer
(Competitor)
Tue Jan 23, 07   1:03 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

what??? i will spell it bitch ok dumb shit

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Tue Jan 23, 07   3:10 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

who are you to be calling some body dumbshit dumbshit?

newyorkdrags
(Flagger)
Tue Jan 23, 07   3:23 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

hes calling his mom that lol

NOS
(Competitor)
Wed Jan 24, 07   6:08 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

hahahahahahhaha ur sooooooooooooooooooo funny man ahhhahahahaahhaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah

newyorkdrags
(Flagger)
Wed Jan 24, 07   12:41 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

i know but i just cant stand gamer lol he such a fucking idiot wit no life

gamer
(Competitor)
Wed Jan 24, 07   4:39 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

fuck you

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Thu Jan 25, 07   2:47 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

i already told you nobody accepts invitations from people that 1) dont have a stick to shift with. 2) live in a cardboard box behind mcdonalds. 3) is a phycho. and 4) is a dumbshit.

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Thu Jan 25, 07   3:51 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Well seeing as how you fall under category 4 for spelling "psycho" wrong, I'd say your shit out of luck.

gamer
(Competitor)
Fri Jan 26, 07   3:17 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

looks like someone eles hates you too bich see you are a n0ob

Racerchic06
(Racer)
Sat Jan 27, 07   12:10 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

well seeing how you fall under category 1 for being a pussy i'd say your outa luck.

newyorkdrags
(Flagger)
Sat Jan 27, 07   12:22 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

shut the hell up u fat piece of shite with the 1?24th scale 3000 gt u lying piece of shite

Raceflame
(Spectator)
Sat Jan 27, 07   12:56 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

newyorkdrags sucks at writing shit, hes a cockroach, who deserves to be slapped in pieces and bleeding

newyorkdrags
(Flagger)
Sat Jan 27, 07   1:59 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

oppppppppps wrote that shite wrong my bad

Rx_otary_Se7en
(Black Sunshine)
Sat Jan 27, 07   5:06 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Im a pussy huh? How do you figure that? Use fact as proof this time around.

SweetNeon
(Black Sunshine)
Mon Jan 29, 07   6:07 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

Maybe she smelled dirty cum soaked bloody cunt and thought it was comeing from you.

NOS
(Competitor)
Mon Jan 29, 07   7:41 PM
Re: hey im new and need help

no it was the smell of ur moms sour pussy after i finished pounding it

Raceflame
(Spectator)
Thu Feb 1, 07   6:35 AM
Re: hey im new and need help

lol, your silly douchebags and old farts

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